It was close to 11 PM in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. I was done. I’d woken up at 7, worked non-stop for ten hours, and I was burned out in the way only founders understand — that bone-deep kind of tired where the only thing you want in the world is the pillow.
But I had one more call on my calendar. It was with Srikumar Rao — an MBA professor and, at the time, just one of the many American authors Mindvalley was publishing. Back then, these late-night calls with US-based authors were normal for me.
I was dreading this one. My only job was to run through the items on the agenda, be polite, and get off the phone so I could sleep.
What I wasn’t expecting was that the man on the other end of the line was about to become one of the most profound influences in my life. And it would begin with a poem.
A few minutes into the call, Rao paused and said, “Hey Vishen, is everything okay? You sound stressed.”
I wasn’t about to admit it. “No, no, it’s all good. It’s just kind of late over here, but I’m happy to talk.”
He paused again. “Hang on. Let’s stop for a second. May I read you a poem?”
My first thought, honestly: I do not have time for this. It was the last thing in the world I wanted. But Rao was an important connection, and I didn’t want to be rude.
So I asked, trying to hide my frustration, “How long is it?”
“Just listen,” he said.
And then he read me these words. I’m going to share them in full. Read them once. Then read them again. Notice what happens in your body:
When I run after what I think I want, my days are a furnace of distress and anxiety;
If I sit in my own place of patience, what I need flows to me, and without any pain.
From this I understand that what I want also wants me, is looking for me and attracting me.
There is a great secret in this for anyone who can grasp it.
— Rumi
When he finished, I didn’t say anything for a moment. I don’t think I could.
Then Rao explained what the poem was really about. He said: Vishen, if you were truly doing what is in your dharma — what your soul came here to do — you wouldn’t be experiencing this level of stress.
Dharma
Dharma is a Sanskrit word that doesn’t really translate cleanly into English. It’s something like your soul’s duty. Your cosmic role. The path your life is meant to move along if nothing is interfering with it. In the Indian traditions, it’s the quiet understanding that you came here to do something specific, and when you’re doing it, the universe seems to open doors for you. When you’re not, doors close. Things get heavy. The work that used to energize you starts to feel like dragging a boulder uphill.
Here’s what Rao was really telling me that night, hidden inside a thirteenth-century poem: the stress I was feeling wasn’t a time management problem. It wasn’t a productivity problem. It wasn’t even a business problem.
It was a signal.
A signal that somewhere in my life, I was chasing something that wasn’t actually mine. Running after what I thought I wanted. And as Rumi said — when you do that, your days become a furnace of distress and anxiety. Not because you’re lazy. Not because you’re not working hard enough. But because you’re pouring your finite, precious life force into a goal your soul never actually signed up for.
It took me two years to really understand what Rao had handed me on that call. But when I finally did, it rearranged my entire life.
I know this painfully, because I got it catastrophically wrong
Years before that call with Rao, I had what on paper was one of the greatest experiences of my young life.
I was a computer science major at the University of Michigan, and I had been selected for the Microsoft internship. This was the mid-nineties. Working for Microsoft back then was like working for Apple or Google today. I was one of about 1% of applicants who’d made it in. I was part of a gifted cohort. And during that internship, I was invited — along with the other interns — to Bill Gates’ home.
It was the most beautiful home I had ever seen in my life.
I remember standing there, in Bill’s house, thinking about my grandfather, who had believed in me so deeply. My parents, who had sacrificed so much to put me through an American education. Everything had worked. Everything. The Malaysian kid had made it to the top of the mountain the world had told him to climb.
And I felt nothing.
Not nothing exactly. I felt impressed with myself. I felt proud. I felt validated. But underneath all of that — in the quiet place Rumi was pointing at — there was an unmistakable feeling of: this isn’t mine.
I lasted eleven weeks at Microsoft before I got myself fired.
As I boarded the taxi out of Sea-Tac Airport, part of me felt like a complete failure. But another part of me was quietly, almost embarrassingly, elated. Because for the first time in years, I could feel what my own soul actually wanted. And it wasn’t that.
I just didn’t have the language for it yet. I wouldn’t get that language until Rao read me Rumi, years later.
The two kinds of wanting
Here’s the distinction Rumi was pointing at, and what it’s taken me two decades of building Mindvalley to fully metabolize:
There are two completely different kinds of wanting, and most of us can’t tell them apart.
The first comes from ego. It arrives with urgency. It says: I need this so I’ll finally have enough. I need this to prove something. I need this before someone else gets there first. Ego desire carries the signature of who you’re trying to become for other people. When you sit with it quietly — no phone, no distractions — it feels like tension. Like performance. Like rehearsing a version of yourself for an audience.
The second comes from soul. It doesn’t feel like hunger. It feels like recognition. Like remembering something you already knew. It carries the signature of who you already are. When you sit with it, it feels like relief. Like exhaling. Like coming home to a house you didn’t know you’d left.
Same outward behavior — a person working hard, building, striving. Completely different engine underneath.
And here’s the uncomfortable truth: the manifesting industry has spent forty years teaching us to visualize harder, affirm louder, and vision-board bigger — without ever asking whether the thing we’re trying to pull into our lives is actually ours in the first place.
You cannot manifest your way out of a life that isn’t yours.
What the science says
Harvard psychologist Dan Gilbert spent his career studying something called affective forecasting — the way we predict how future achievements will make us feel. His landmark research, laid out in his book Stumbling on Happiness, shows that we overestimate the emotional payoff of our goals by 200 to 300%.
Our “psychological immune system” levels us out far faster than we expect.
Translation: if you’re chasing a goal because of how you think it will make you feel when you get there, you are almost certainly wrong about the feeling. And you’re burning years of your finite life to find out.
This is what standing in Bill Gates’ house at twenty-one taught me in my body — years before I had the research to name it. I had achieved the thing. And the thing did not deliver the feeling I’d been promised it would deliver.
Because the goal wasn’t mine.
How to tell them apart in your body
Here’s what I’ve learned to feel for, and what I now teach people in our work at Mindvalley.
Ego desire arrives with urgency and tightness. Your jaw clenches. Your shoulders creep up. There’s a constant hum of not enough underneath the ambition. You check metrics obsessively. You compare yourself to peers and feel either superior or crushed — never at peace. You fantasize about the announcement of the achievement more than the achievement itself. When you finally get it, there’s relief for about 11 days. Then the goalposts move.
Soul desire shows up differently. It’s warm and expansive. It lives in your chest, not your jaw. You think about it and feel energy, not anxiety. You’d do the work even if nobody watched. It doesn’t need external validation to feel real — though validation may come. And when you achieve it, there’s a quiet yes that doesn’t fade. Not euphoria. Something deeper. Alignment.
Try this right now. Pick a goal you’re currently pursuing. Close your eyes for ten seconds. Feel into it.
Does it feel like reaching or remembering?
That’s your answer.
The voice you’re running on
Read this slowly and be honest. No judgment.
| Ego desires feel like: | Soul desires feel like: |
|---|---|
| “What will they think of me?” | “This is who I’m here to become.” |
| “I just need to prove I can do it.” | “This feels light, easeful, right.” |
| “More. Bigger. Faster.” | “Peace and ambition? Yes, please.” |
| “Once I get this, I’ll finally have enough.” | “I am already enough. This is just expression.” |
| “I need to catch up.” | “I am exactly where I need to be.” |
| “I’ll rest when I’ve made it.” | “Rest is part of how I create.” |
| “If I slow down, someone takes my place.” | “What’s meant for me cannot miss me.” |
| “I need to be the best.” | “I need to be the most honest.” |
| “Why isn’t it happening faster?” | “It’s already happening — I can feel it.” |
Now notice what those voices produce in real life. Actual goals. Actual sentences you say to yourself or post on Instagram:
| Ego desire (sounds like): | Soul desire (sounds like): |
|---|---|
| “I need to hit $1M in the next 6 months.” | “I want to build something that outlives me.” |
| “I need to become a doctor so my parents are proud.” | “I want to heal people because it lights me up.” |
| “I need a bigger house than my neighbor.” | “I want a home where my family feels safe and creative.” |
| “I need 100K followers to be taken seriously.” | “I want to share ideas that help people think differently.” |
| “I need to prove I’m successful before my reunion.” | “I want to wake up excited about my work every day.” |
| “I need to be the best in my industry.” | “I want to do work that feels honest and alive.” |
Notice the pattern.
Ego desires are about proving, comparing, and arriving. Soul desires are about expressing, contributing, and becoming.
One is driven by not enough. The other is driven by who I am.
Why this is the real reason manifesting stops working
When you try to manifest from ego, your visualization gets contaminated.
The vision board says freedom and abundance. But the nervous system underneath is broadcasting: I’m not enough, please validate me, I need this to prove I matter.
The universe — or your reticular activating system, if you prefer the neuroscience frame — responds to the signal, not the words. And the signal of ego desire is fear, dressed up as ambition.
This is why so many high-performing, spiritually-curious, smart people I meet are stuck. They’ve read the books, done the vision boards, listened to the podcasts. And the manifestation engine keeps sputtering.
They assume they’re doing the technique wrong.
They’re not. The technique is fine.
The goal is the problem.
The shift isn’t about wanting less. It’s about wanting clean. Wanting from wholeness instead of lack. Creating from alignment with your dharma instead of from anxiety about your image.
When you do that — when the want is actually yours — Rumi’s second stanza kicks in. “What you need starts to flow to you. Without any pain. Because what you want also wants you.”
Someone who gets this at a level that startled me

The first time I met Regan Hillyer, she was one of the few CEOs I’d met who was genuinely, from-the-bones calm. Not performed calm. Not “I meditate so I’m zen” calm. The kind of calm that comes from knowing exactly which of her desires are hers, and which ones she’s quietly released.
She calls her method Energetic Architecture — aligning your internal state so precisely with your actual desires that the external results become almost inevitable.
What I love about her work is that she skips the usual visualization theater and goes straight to the body. She’ll ask you to name your biggest goal, then ask where in your body you’re holding it. Chest, warm, expansive? That’s the soul. Jaw, shoulders, clenched fists? That’s ego dressed up.
Her program, The Art of Manifesting, won Mindvalley’s Most Popular Program in 2024 — which tells me a lot about how hungry people are for this exact conversation right now.
The field where soul-led creation actually happens

There’s something that shifts when you put hundreds of people in the same space, all of them doing the real work of stripping away the goals that aren’t theirs and reconnecting with the ones that are.
The noise quiets. The field shifts. And the desires that emerge in that room come from a completely different place than the ones you’d write down alone in your journal with Instagram open in the next tab.
That’s what we’re creating with the Manifesting Summit. May 15–17, 2026. Free. Live.
This isn’t another “visualize your dream life” workshop. It’s the environment where soul-led creation actually happens, surrounded by teachers and seekers who know the difference between grasping and genuine desire, and can help you feel the difference in your body, not just understand it in your head.
Regan will be there. So will some of the deepest thinkers on conscious creation I’ve ever shared a stage with. And we’ll be going places most personal growth events are too polished to go.
If you read that table and recognized your own voice in soul desires more than you’d like to admit, this is the field you need to be in.
With love,

P.S. If this news stirred something in you — Leave your comment. I read every single one.






78 Responses
I figure the posts on this event have been at least a bit shaped by AI (given some other programs and posts by Mindvalley), but they have been very reassuring. This one got me to sign up. (And, yes, you used the magic word “free.” But I show up for free things.)
Dear Vishen, i recall receiving your emails when Malaysia was hit by the pandemic in 2020 and you left Kuala Lumpur just before the first lockdown.
Everything you mentioned up there under soul desire is where i am at the moment, though i am not really there because i know i am meant to do more than what i have posted on Linkedin as the founder of a Public Relations Agency. I am passionate about my creative work ie oil paintings but wasn’t selected here in a recent exhibition in Kuala Lumpur. That got me down. I channel when i paint and i believe you know what i mean by chanelling – every piece has a story and it’s to heal the world. Just 2 days ago i posted one of Oprah Winfrey’s video where she said ‘ask yourself what makes you come alive and go do that’, and what the world needs is people who have come alive. This is where i envision to be Vishen.. i do have some other gifts as well and that i can’t share it here at the moment. I am surprised to see your email today because just yesterday i came across your video on manifesting on Instagram and made a wish.
I resonate deeply with this post, and at the same time, I feel there’s an important layer missing—the journey of self-acceptance and integration that unfolds over time.
Growth isn’t always linear or immediate. These stages can take years, sometimes even lifetimes, as we come into deeper alignment with who we truly are.
Rather than focusing on the promise of “manifesting your dreams,” perhaps it’s more meaningful to reframe it as understanding your soul’s desires. That shift invites patience, compassion, and a deeper kind of fulfillment one that isn’t rushed, but truly embodied.
This was exactly what I needed to hear, thank you 🙏
Best mf post eva 🏆🎯🔥
Your piece is well written and clearly sincere, but the TL;DR is this: the email is enormous. The central idea is strong, yet the length risks exhausting the reader before the truth fully lands.
What stood out to me most was not just the distinction between ego desire and soul desire, but the deeper tension underneath it: sometimes what drains us is not misalignment alone, but carrying a meaningful calling through fatigue, pressure, grief, or responsibility. Not every furnace is proof we are on the wrong path. Some fires refine.
I also think an underexplored point here is that borrowed dreams do not always come from vanity. Sometimes they come from love, loyalty, survival, family expectation, or gratitude. That makes discernment harder and more human than simply labeling a desire ego.
So yes, the piece is thoughtful and well intentioned. It would become even more powerful with sharper compression, more nuance around stress, and a little more room for the possibility that purpose can still feel heavy while remaining true.
Thank you for the contemplative rigor this invites.
I read the poem by Rumi and my heart and soul just screamed “YES”, that’s exactly how I’ve felt my whole adult life, but couldn’t put it into words. The work I was doing didn’t speak to me, it paid the bills.
My anticipation for this Summit has lit a flame in me I haven’t felt in a very longtime.
Thank you so much, Vishen for sharing your passion with the world and making it so much lighter.
Thank you so much for this’ reading your newsletter every week sometimes feel like a message sent to me by the universe. I feel like almost every time I have been stuck on something reading one of your latest newsletter has been an answer to that.. I have a small question though’ according to my mother and a few of my very close relatives I am someone that does not ever fulfil the goal set for herself and possibly someone who is not dedicated to a goal they say that I have left almost every goal I envisioned for myself and I lack discipline that is need to get rid of this habit. But, personally I am so lost, I dont know what I want to do. and like you shared in this blog sometimes those goals feel forced when I share them with my parents or with people because it feels like I am trying to complete the goal for them not for me and I leave it. I dont know if I am explaining this right but yeah. Discipline is. not something that I think is too hard but discipline I dont know why but I find it restrictive and limiting’ it feels like I am bound in something and cannot deviate from it’ it simply scares. What should I do? Please share your thoughts on this.. Thank you again for your time, effort and patience..
Forever grateful..l
This deeply resonates with me on a soul level, feels true. I am a psychic medium, Clairvoyant, all the C’s, visionary, teacher, author, and I host spiritual events and fairs in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and I’m a Business owner of Spiritualenlightenment. me
Thank you for helping humanity get it right! I’m excited to join the Zoom community for this summit. Many blessings, Ms. Murphy
Thank you so much!
I came in the perfect time.
Hi Vishen,
This really resonates, especially the distinction between proving and expressing.
I’d take it that bit further from what I see in leadership and high-pressure environments.
It’s not always that the dream isn’t yours.
It’s that under pressure, thinking shifts and people start operating from patterns that aren’t aligned with how they actually lead, decide, and perform at their best.
I’ve seen individuals deeply connected to meaningful work still experience intensity, stress, and challenge, not because they’re on the wrong path,
but because pressure narrows thinking and distorts clarity in the moment.
When clarity drops, alignment drops.
When alignment drops, action becomes inconsistent.
So the question becomes less about
“Is this my dream?”
More about
“How do I maintain clear thinking and aligned action when it matters most?”
That’s where the real shift happens.
Would love to explore this conversation further, there’s something powerful in bridging this with how people actually operate in real-world leadership environments.
Catherine Gallacher
Certified Empowerment Result Coach™
http://www.realisedcatherinegallacher.net 💚
Tears in my eyes and yearning in my heart. This is the only thing that makes sense. The writing the manifestation never felt right to me. Asking the wrong question because you bet, my internal voice loves a challenge and is an expert at showing me the manifestation I am writing is not happening for me. And my heart still yearns to find a way to be happy and joyous on the daily.
This deeply resonates with me. I’ve been a Mind Valley Member for 3 years and I have grown so much and I’m continuing to grow. I am a Mortgage Loan Officer and I’ve set production goals that aren’t truly mine. I know what I want. I want to help people create financial security through home ownership. I want more Americans to benefit from our All In One product which will help them pay off their home expeditiously. It’s not about a production number. It’s about helping people see what’s possible and educating them so they are open to something that’s not familiar. Thank you for helping me realize this.
This landed deeply. So many of us were taught to chase symbols of success without ever pausing to ask: Does this belong to my soul, or only to my conditioning?
The body always knows before the mind admits it. What expands us is usually ours. What contracts us is often borrowed desire.
Real manifestation begins when ambition is purified from fear, comparison, and the need to prove. Then creation stops feeling like force… and starts feeling like flow.
Thank you for reminding people that alignment is not laziness, and peace is not weakness. Sometimes the most powerful move is not to chase harder, but to listen deeper. 🙏✨
Actually, reading this things… I can’t explain my feelings. You know, now l feel like some things that l am doing or chasing now is only things that other want😅
Vishen, when you share emails like this, exposing your true self, mistakes and failures, and your successes when you do what feels right, it moves me deeply. Thank you for your generosity and dedication to the community here and for all you do world wide. Then you share those experiences. I loved reading about the ancient tribe you met. If only we could all be like them. I appreciate you and your team.